Thanks summernudist,
You sound like a kinred spirt.
I will most likely be coming from San Bernardino side. But I may go down the dirt side just to check out the changes. It is nice to hear the Forest service has given up that farse of a pass plan. All I could see was more litter created by all of that paper. I will listen for the frogs while I am there. They are probly dug in for the summer heat.
The best way to get rid of poison oak is to dig up the root. There is a nut in there put it and the roots on something dry like the back of your truck.
That worked in Florida it should work in Kinley creek too.
Thanks again !