Naked Man, I think the post by Leaky is a farce. Is Leaky really Tiki? I think this could be the case. I don't know of any agenda in all of this. Tiki in a past post said he beleives he has met me before. He mentioned seeing me with my daughters. I don't remember who he is if I have met him at DCHS. Even though I considered the above post as foolishness I thought that I would respond to it on the issue of the talk of guns. Guns are a bad idea at the springs, people at times do stupid things. Best they do them without a gun around. I can answer any further questions you may have Naked Man at the e-mail address, hotspringswizard@hotmail.com