Re: Free Will & Universal connection

Wizard wrote:

> I wonder, who created this " creator " you speak
> of?

Or put another way, "If God created the universe, then who created God?" But God, by definition, is the uncreated Creator of the universe, so the question "Who created God?" or "I wonder, who created this " creator " you speak of?" is illogical, just like "To whom is the bachelor married?"
A more sophisticated questioner might ask, "If the universe needs a cause, then why dosen't God need a cause?" Consider the following:

Everything WHICH HAS A BEGINNING has a cause.

The universe has a beginning.

Therefore the universe has a cause.

Note the words in caps. The universe requires a cause because it had a beginning. God, unlike the universe, had no beginning, so does not need a cause. Einstein's general relativity,which has much experimental support, shows that time is tied to matter and space, so time itself would have begun along with matter and space at the beginning of the universe. Since God is the creator of the whole universe, He is the creator of time. Therefore He is not limited by the dimension He created, so He has no beginning in time. Therefore He does not have, or need to have , a cause.
In contrast, there is good evidence that the universe had a beginning.
This can be shown from the Laws of Thermodynamics, the most fundamental laws of physics.
First Law: The TOTAL amount of mass-energy in the universe is CONSTANT.
Secound Law: The amount of energy AVAILABLE FOR WORK is running down, or ENTROPY is increasing to a maximum.
If the total amount of mass-energy is limited and the amount of usable energy is decreasing, then the universe cannot have existedforever, otherwise it would ALREADY have exhausted all usable energy and reached what is known as "heat death". So the universe must have been created with a lot of usable energy and is now running down.
Could the universe have had a beginning, but not need a cause? No. It is self-evident that things that begin have a cause---no one really denies it in their inner being. All science, history and law enforcement would collapse if this law of cause and effect were denied. Also the universe cannot be self-caused---nothing can create itself, because it would need to exist before it came into existance, a logical absurdity.

In Summary:


The universe (including time itself) can be shown to have had a beginning.

It is unreasonable to believe something could just begin to exist without a cause.

The universe therefore requires a cause.

God, as a Creator of time, is outside of time. Therefore, He had no beginning in time, has always existed, and so does not need a cause.



Whichever way you look at it---the evidences from the Bible, the incredibly complex, organized information in living things, or the origin of the universe---belief in an all-powerful, all-knowing Creator God, as revealed in the Bible, not only makes sence, but is the only logical, viable and satisfying explanation.