You ask if these are facts or hearsay.There are many facts this is one of them : 7 years ago a good friend of mine caught joe rubbing baby oil on his 8 year old daughters back whilst asking her to count the hairs on her vagina and he was telling her all about his scrotum. She had a friend with her. He felt this was appropriate to discuss with 8 year old girls without permission from and out of sight of their parents.He also felt it was just fine to touch them. my friend had brought his daughter to the springs since she was a baby. He hasn't returned since he filed the police report. Since all Joe did was speak to the girls ( he has to actually hurt them physically for it to count, apparently)the police couldn't prosecute. There is a police report filed in S.B. county to that effect. There were numerous complaints from parents of young girls who had come through Bowen Ranch that I personally spoke with.The complaints were always the same.
The reason we posted under a different name is because we were denied a password 6 different times as our true selves.We prefer to post as ourselves as we have nothing to hide. If any of you are in doubt as to his objectification of women please review his previous posts. You can keyword panties to see the 'harmless' way in which he describes women.He often forgets to describe the undergarments of the men he meets on his travels.Van, please ask your wife to read these and see how she feels about his harmless attitude towards women . Maybe before you let him babysit.
Didn't Elizabeth smarts kidnapper choose a nice biblical name for himself also?.......