Hot Springs of California, USA and the World.https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/index.phpSun, 19 Apr 2026 18:33:55 -0700 Phorum 5.2.10 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27413,27413#msg-27413 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27413,27413#msg-27413
The pipe that feeds the source to the arrowhead pool in the warm springs was broken off. Wondering if anybody knows who or how the original pipe was installed and any idea on the size of pipe, suggestions for repair? Just to be clear this is not a pool at the main hot springs, don’t want to draw too much attention as this pool is still hidden from social media, but I would like to repair it.

picture of damage]]> paulespo Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 16 Apr 2026 12:55:52 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27409,27409#msg-27409 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27409,27409#msg-27409 Sam D. Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 16 Apr 2026 10:09:06 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27408,27408#msg-27408 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27408,27408#msg-27408I'm thinking of coming out to Deep Creek and wondering how the water is right now?
Thanks!]]> tovala Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 29 Sep 2025 11:18:39 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27400,27400#msg-27400 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27400,27400#msg-27400
This will be a family event combined with NitOC,
San Diego's Camping Bares and Inland Empire Nudist Club.
All naturists are welcome.

For more informaion: Deep Creek Hike & Camping w/NitOC & Camping Bares]]> AlexJr Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 03 Jun 2025 18:01:31 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27396,27396#msg-27396 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27396,27396#msg-27396 Sam D. Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 20 May 2025 22:09:56 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27374,27374#msg-27374 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27374,27374#msg-27374Agency Logo
Tuesday October 1, 2024, 4:30 PM
SBSD - Victor Valley Sheriff's Department


Advisory: Deputy's Seeking Public's Assistance in Locating Man Missing from the Deep Creek Hot Springs Area

Dear James Terrell,


DATE/TIME: September 26, 2024, 10:00 a.m.

INCIDENT: Missing Person

LOCATION: Deep Creek Hot Springs Area, Apple Valley, CA

MISSING PERSON(S): David Mitchell, 69-year-old Resident of Lucerne Valley


SUMMARY: On September 28, 2024, deputies from the Victor Valley station were requested to take a report for a missing Lucerne Valley man. The missing person, David Mitchell, was last seen walking alone on September 26, 2024, at approximately 10:00 a.m., near Deep Creek Hot Springs. His vehicle, a 1998 Infinity I30, was found abandoned at the Bowen Ranch Campground.

Mitchell is described as a white male, 6’00’ tall, weighing 156 pounds. He has brown hair and hazel eyes. Mitchell was last seen wearing unknown color hoodie, shorts, and dark socks.

Anyone with information on David Mitchell’s whereabouts is asked to contact the Victor Valley station at (760) 552-6800 or Sheriff’s Dispatch at (760) 956-5001. Callers wishing to remain anonymous are urged to call the We-Tip Hotline at 1-800-78CRIME (27463) or you may leave information on the We-Tip website at www.wetip.com.

Refer: Detective A. Pangburn

Station: Victor Valley

Phone No. (760) 552-6800

Case No. 072403570

SHANNON D. DICUS, Sheriff-Coroner
San Bernardino County Sheriff-Coroner Department]]> Katrinaisland Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 19 Oct 2024 13:15:10 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27372,27372#msg-27372 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27372,27372#msg-27372 Sam D. Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 10 Sep 2024 10:14:24 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27368,27368#msg-27368 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27368,27368#msg-27368Name
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I wanted to check out some hot springs, and after a quick Google search, I found Deep Creek Hot Springs wasn't too far from me. I came across this forum regarding it, can anyone give me information about Deep Creek? Is it interesting/worth trying? What do you think I should know?]]> ramiroflores Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSun, 23 Jun 2024 19:13:54 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27364,27364#msg-27364 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27364,27364#msg-27364
Anyways, I did the hike down nude and didn't see any other nude hikers sadly. Laid out in the sun for a while then I moved to the water. The pools themselves were nice as always and the creek was felt a little warmer and lower. Still chilly but it was hot out so it refreshing. The hike up done nude as well and was uneventful. I showered and had fun with exploring the campground a bit more before getting dressed and heading out.]]> BearsOnASubmarine Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 04 Jun 2024 10:35:35 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27363,27363#msg-27363 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27363,27363#msg-27363I got to the springs a few minutes before 11 am. There was not a cloud in the sky and a cool breeze made for a comfy hike. When I got my thermometer out the air temp was 74 degrees. The creek water where most cross was 62 degrees. There was about 15 to 20 persons scattered around. Five were through hikers. Later in the day several more showed up. For those who do not know, the Pacific Crest trail goes through the valley. Through hikers hike through on the trail and most stop to rest, eat, relax and clean up. Good idea! As you can imagine after hiking 15 to 20 miles a day on average. They are tired, hungry and smell. I always enjoy meeting and talking with them. They are strong and muscular and beautiful people. Later I met a woman whom made me wish I had brought my back pack so I could got with her. She had Long beautiful gray hair and a nice spirit came from her. She made my day.
About 330 pm I got my thermometer out to take the pool temps.
The water about 15 feet up stream from the AZ. Pool was 55 degrees.
At the Arizona pool some one had put sand bags just below the source. The temp there was 110. The spring there come out at 108 so the sunshine was doing it's thing. On the upstream side of the pool we're several sand bags. I arranged them to block the water from there better. As I was doing this a guy came by with some more sand bags and shovel. We made about 10 more sand bags up and put them on the down stream side of the pool. Before we put the additional bags there the temp was 69 degrees. Afterwards, the temp was 75 degrees. Afterwards this pool was crowded with a large amount of soakers. As the day went forward a large amount of campers started to show up. Many were party animals drinking, smoking and getting loud. Basically enjoyingng life at my favorite hot spring.
At the Anniversary pool a friend had cleaned this pool very well. Except there was too much litter which I packed out. The temp there was 110. The sun did that.
The Womb pool was crowded also. But clean and a pleasant soak. The temp was 105. Hotter than usual.
The Serenity pool was nice at 108 degrees most of the water from the Crab Cooker pool was flowing into it. The Crab Cooker pool was 114 degrees cooler than usual. Dunno why. The Contemplation pool was 95 degrees warmer than expected.
For anyone who has not been to the new camp ground, I highly recommend it. Not just for the picnic tables and fire rings. But the friendly atmosphere and fun that can be had there. When I left there were 5 vehicles in the old parking lot called the Bowen ranch. And too many to count at the NEW camp ground. Just saying!
After all this it continued to get too crowded so I left earlier than I wanted to.
Happy hot springing in the springtime!]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 04 May 2024 14:06:06 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27361,27361#msg-27361 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27361,27361#msg-27361 NudstRalph Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 19 Apr 2024 12:31:38 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27349,27349#msg-27349 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27349,27349#msg-27349I got to the springs at 1 pm. When I pulled out my thermometer the air temp was 60 degrees. The water was 49 degrees. I could see probably 30 - 40 people around. I swam as fast as I could to cross the creek. Others were crossing by walking down stream a bit. The water there was up to their chest. This took 3 times longer than swimming.
The first regular I saw was mayor David. I chatted with him about 20 minutes.
Afterwards I went around and checked the temperatures of the pools. The water of the creek was at the same level as the Serenity pool. Witch was muddy some what with leaves and debris on its bottom. Some one had removed the sand bags there that had directed the water from the Crab Cooker pool to this pool when the water was higher. I corrected this situation later in the day just before I left at sun down. Because it was not crowded then. The temp of the water was 105 degrees in the Serenity pool.
The temp of the Womb pool was 103 degrees, this was warmer than expected also.
The Anniversary pool temp was 105 degrees. Also warmer than expected. It was a bit muddy also. So, I went up to the source by the Pacific Crest trail to investigate why the water was muddy.? An African guy and an Arabian fellow had and were building a pool there. The water temp was 119 degrees. They asked me to not get in because the water was too hot they said with an Arab accent. They spoke to each other in an Arab language. I told them I was tough just like them. But did not sit down like they did as the pool was too small. Again later in the day, just before sunset, I went and tore this pool down so this heated water could go to the other pools.
The Arizona pool was about 4-6 inches under the height of the creek. There was no sand in the pool at all. And the plug from the drainage pipe was missing. Someone had put sandbags just below the source to make a small pool there only big enough for 2 people. Most were only soaking their feet and splashing the hot water on themselves. The temp upstream from the AZ pool was 47 degrees.
As I looked around the beach area I spotted 7 tents and 2 other areas where people had just piled up camping equipment. Kind of strange as there is no moon light now. The good
news is there was no trash to be found anywhere.
While soaking in the Womb pool I got into a conversation with 4 guys from Colorado. I got into telling them about my time when I worked at the nuclear test site in Nevada which was an incredible and multifaceted experience. As my stories became complicated they explained they had done some LSD just before I had got there. And they were extremely fascinated by my stories, tell us more. This seemed like it took 1 hour BUT, it took more than 2 hours. Whereupon they announced that I appeared like a wizard.? That was when they all retired to their camp site amazed beyond belief. VERY INTERESTING!!!!!!
As I crossed the creek to go home an unmarked helicopter came flying low and slow over the canyon. I started to get out my camera but, it appeared the copter was about to hit the cliff just above me. So, I ran as quickly as I could. Luckily it did not. So I took pics of it as it was leaving. Then some people from China came to me asking what to do? I explained to them how to cross. It was an elderly couple and their 30ish son. Only the son spoke English. As they were crossing the father got caught in the current and started drowning. Again, I ran as fast as I could to attempt to rescue him. His son got there first, luckily. So, there is a lesson there for us all, be aware at all times.
And now I would like to vent about the driving situation I experienced this trip.
As I was driving on Bowen ranch road a group of motorcycles came from the opposite direction. The first group of 3 were coming toward me around a curve in the road. One of them was looking at the guy beside him and did not see me about to hit him. I blew my horn to get his attention and made a hard left turn into the embankment. He leaned to the left missing me by inches. I felt like cussing at him but did not. About 8 more cycles came around the curve all slamming on their brakes. I had to pull off the embankment to get the dirt off my bumpers and tires. They all continued on, teenagers all. I hope they learned a lesson !
Then as I left on central Avenue as I got near where the railroad crossing is a monster truck with extra bright lights was coming the opposite direction. I flashed my bright lights on an off hoping he would turn off his lights. But noooo. I could not even see my windshield. So I had to stop in the road so I would not crash.
Beam me up Scotty as there is no intelligent life here !!!]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 12 Mar 2024 20:13:39 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27347,27347#msg-27347 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27347,27347#msg-27347https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13143235/California-Miracle-hot-spring-deaths-closed.html]]> Tanjja California Hot SpringsFri, 05 Apr 2024 03:21:31 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27345,27345#msg-27345 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27345,27345#msg-27345Poll: What is my brothers name

Looking forward to the hot springs. Bringing down a good trash bag and I am sure we can fill it. The most beautiful hot springs and such a shame the way it has been abused. Hoping it will be well flushed out and possibly a light rain!
I am 70 now so has been in 58 years since the first time. Think we met the Manson family then... Sure looked them!! Good to join your group and keep this wonder well preserved.]]> SveNeon Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 19 Feb 2024 09:21:59 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27342,27342#msg-27342 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27342,27342#msg-27342These people are a class of people I call “ignets”. They are the ones that get full of this imaginary power and at the expense of water sources and the environment, exert that false authority. Instead of being stewards of the lands and give thanks for their allowance to be their, the argue and scrap I’ve shit that has no true value- all the while these other ignets are painting on rocks, trashing the area and shitting in the creek!
They don’t get it! They are completely missing it!
Joke them if they can’t take a FUCK!🤯🤪😝😉😁😵‍💫😵🤔]]> Rattlesnake ranch Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 01 Jan 2024 04:47:39 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27328#msg-27328 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27328#msg-27328 jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 21 Dec 2023 19:48:50 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27319,27319#msg-27319 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27319,27319#msg-27319 DCresearch Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSun, 12 Nov 2023 19:04:56 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27318#msg-27318 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27318#msg-27318Bowen escapades. If anyone has information how to locate a copy, please email me or reply to this post with that information? It would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time and response-
Annie @ the Rattlesnake Ranch, Apple Valley, CA]]> Rattlesnake ranch Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 30 Nov 2023 22:54:30 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27316,27316#msg-27316 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27316,27316#msg-27316 Dck111181 Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 04 Apr 2024 17:28:13 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27315,27315#msg-27315 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27315,27315#msg-27315 HighAce Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 23 Sep 2023 21:14:09 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27313,27313#msg-27313 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27313,27313#msg-27313https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum is not working. Navigating to https://deepcreekhotsprings.net shows blank page.]]> Sam D. Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 23 Sep 2023 17:08:45 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27311,27311#msg-27311 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27311,27311#msg-27311Yesterday I got to the springs at 1:30 pm. It must have been Mexican appreciation day. There were at least 30 Mexican men there. Only 2 Mexican women and the boom box had the same songs I have heard for decades playing. So I did the only thing I knew to do. I took a 2 hour nap. There was only 2 other people with European ancestry and one was speaking Spanish with them. This IS the greatest country ever.
So at 4:20 I got my new thermometer out. It said the air temp was 89 degrees. All temps of the pools were taken at their center near the surface.
The Arizona pool is leaking again, it was just a little more than half full. The temp there was 113 degrees. I suppose it was leaking because of storm damage. The creek is around 6 inches higherr than the week before.
The Anniversaty pool was 109 degrees. I took the blue hose out and cleaned the dead algae and trash out of the pool. It over heated me but that just makes me stronger.
The womb pool was 106 degrees. Hotter than I expected. I got the hose out and with a little help from friends we cleaned the dead algae out of this pool also. Thank you seniors and seniorettas. The Serenity pool was having the water deverted from the Crab Cooker pool directly into it. The temp was 107 degrees. The Contemplation pool was full of burrito eaters, thank you for the good food, really needed it. The temp there was 96 degrees. Even hotter was the sauce.
The creek water at the spot @20 feet upstream from the Arizona pool was 76 degrees. The creek water where most cross the creek was 78 degrees.
I only found a large piece of aluminum foil 2 water bottles and an ugly t shirt for my trash collection. Thanks everyone for help with that.
As the sun set a large group of women, all sizes and shapes showed up as I left. Most with sleeping bags and tents. Another terrific time to be at my favorite hot spring.]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 30 Aug 2023 18:39:31 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27310,27310#msg-27310 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27310,27310#msg-27310CAZ038-087-088-346>358-362-366>383-548>550-190600-

Hurricane Hilary Local Statement Advisory Number 9
National Weather Service Los Angeles/Oxnard CA EP092023
858 AM PDT Fri Aug 18 2023

This product covers portions of Southwest California

Hilary to produce rare and dangerous flash flooding and tropical
storm-force winds.

NEW INFORMATION
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* CHANGES TO WATCHES AND WARNINGS:
- A Tropical Storm Watch has been issued for Catalina and Santa
Barbara Islands, Antelope Valley Foothills, San Gabriel
Mountains, Interstate 5 Corridor, Santa Clarita Valley, and
Highway 14 Corridor

* CURRENT WATCHES AND WARNINGS:
- A Tropical Storm Watch has been issued for Catalina and Santa
Barbara Islands, Antelope Valley Foothills, San Gabriel
Mountains, Interstate 5 Corridor, Santa Clarita Valley, and
Highway 14 Corridor

* STORM INFORMATION:
- About 1150 miles south-southeast of Avalon CA or about 1190
miles south-southeast of Los Angeles Airport CA
- 17.9N 111.4W
- Storm Intensity 145 mph
- Movement Northwest or 305 degrees at 10 mph

SITUATION OVERVIEW
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Hurricane Hilary will weaken to a tropical storm as it approaches
Southern California this weekend. Flash flooding will be possible
across Los Angeles and Ventura Counties, and perhaps Santa Barbara
County. Rare and dangerous flooding possible across the mountains.
Tropical-storm-force winds will be possible Sunday into Monday.

POTENTIAL IMPACTS
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* FLOODING RAIN:
Prepare for life-threatening rainfall flooding having possible
extensive impacts across Los Angeles and Ventura Counties, and possibly
Santa Barbara County. The most dangerous conditions are expected over
the mountains. Potential impacts include:
- Major rainfall flooding may prompt many evacuations and rescues.
- Small streams, creeks, canals, arroyos, and ditches may become
dangerous rivers. Destructive runoff may rage down mountain
valleys while increasing susceptibility to rockslides, mudslides,
and debris flows. Flood control systems and barriers may become
stressed.
- Streets and parking lots become rivers of moving water with
underpasses submerged. Driving conditions become dangerous. Many
road and bridge closures with some weakened or washed out.

Prepare for dangerous rainfall flooding having possible limited to
significant impacts elsewhere across the area.

* WIND:
Prepare for hazardous wind having possible limited impacts across Los
Angeles and Ventura Counties, with greatest impacts over Catalina
Island and Santa Barbara Island, as well as the mountains of Los
Angeles County. Potential impacts in this area include:
- Damage to porches, awnings, carports, sheds, and unanchored
mobile homes. Unsecured lightweight objects blown about.
- Many large tree limbs broken off. A few trees uprooted, but with
greater numbers in places where trees are shallow rooted. Some
fences and roadway signs blown over.
- A few roads impassable from debris, particularly within urban
or heavily wooded places. Hazardous driving conditions on
bridges and other elevated roadways.
- Scattered power and communications outages.

Elsewhere across Southwest California, little to no impact is
anticipated.

* SURGE:
Little to no impacts are anticipated at this time across Southwest
California. However, coastal flooding will be possible especially
around Catalina Island and Long Beach.

* TORNADOES:
Little to no impacts are anticipated at this time across Southwest
California.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS
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* EVACUATIONS:
Listen to local official for recommended preparedness actions,
including possible evacuation. If ordered to evacuate, do so
immediately.

* OTHER PREPAREDNESS INFORMATION:
Now is the time to check your emergency plan and emergency supplies
kit and take necessary actions to protect your family and secure your
home or business.

When making safety and preparedness decisions, do not focus on the
exact forecast track since hazards such as flooding rain, damaging
wind gusts, storm surge, and tornadoes extend well away from the
center of the storm.

If in a place that is vulnerable to high wind, such as near large
trees, a manufactured home, upper floors of a high-rise building, or
on a boat, plan to move to safe shelter.

If you live in a place particularly vulnerable to flooding, such as
near the ocean or a large inland lake, in a low-lying or poor
drainage area, in a valley, or near an already swollen river, plan to
move to safe shelter on higher ground.

* ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF INFORMATION:
- For information on appropriate preparations see ready.gov
- For information on creating an emergency plan see getagameplan.org
- For additional disaster preparedness information see redcross.org

NEXT UPDATE
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The next local statement will be issued by the National Weather
Service in Los Angeles/Oxnard CA around 3PM PDT, or sooner if
conditions warrant.

$$]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 18 Aug 2023 13:49:30 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27308,27308#msg-27308 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27308,27308#msg-27308SAN BERNARDINO, Calif., July 21, 2023 – The San Bernardino National Forest is proposing changes to recreation fees at nine developed recreation sites on the three ranger districts of the forest.

Currently, approximately 40 percent of day-use sites, overnight camping sites and other developed recreation sites are managed without user fees.

“We recognize how important these sites are to our local communities and those who use the sites,” said Jonar Rodrigo, Southern Zone Adventure Pass and Recreation Fee Program Manager with the San Bernardino National Forest. “These fee increases will help us maintain the sites to the level and quality people have come to expect, as well as make the fees more consistent throughout the state.”

The proposed fees by site and ranger district follow: at the Front Country District, the Applewhite Campground fee would increase from $10 to $25 for a single site. At the Mountain Top District, the Big Pine Flat OHV Staging Area fee would go from free to $5 per vehicle. At the San Jacinto District, the Pinyon Flats Campground fee would increase from $8 to $20 per night and $5 to $10 per additional vehicle; at the Marion Mountain, Fern Basin and Boulder Basin campgrounds the fees would be increased from $10 to $20 per night and $5 to $10 per additional vehicle; the Dark Canyon Campground fee would go from $12 to $20 a night and $5 to $10 per additional vehicle; the Ribbonwood Equestrian Campground fee would change from $15 to $30 per night, and; the Black Mountain Group Campground fees would increase from $50 to $100 (1-24 people), $75 to $150 (25-49 people), $110 to $200 (50-74 people) and $140 to $225 (75-100 people).

At the newly built OHV staging area at Big Pine Flat, the Annual Adventure Pass and the full suite of Interagency Passes would be honored.

The public is invited to comment on the proposed fee changes to the developed recreation program. The comment period is set to end by close of business on Oct. 1. Bring or mail your written comments to San Bernardino National Forest, Attention: Jonar Rodrigo, 602 S. Tippecanoe Ave., San Bernardino, CA 92408 or communicate by email at sm.fs.BDFFEEPROP@usda.gov. Comments can also be submitted at https://usfs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=f6a8f81baf2843c8bd96c8035d8cc3bc]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 26 Jul 2023 17:07:09 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27295,27295#msg-27295 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27295,27295#msg-27295I had a thermometer with me. All temps were taken near the center of the pools and near their surface. The creek has gone down enough so all pools are now above the creek water height. The Arizona pool has some creek water flowing into it making the water colder than usual. The temp there was 96 degrees. It was much warmer near the spring side of the pool. Some one had blocked the flow with rocks and sand up hill near the source. So I took them down so it would flow directly into this ( many persons favorite pool). The Anniversary pool was baking in the sun. The temp there was 112 degrees. Some one had obviously just cleaned the debris from this pool. Thank you to whomever. The Womb pool was also warmer than usual at 108 degrees. The Serenity pool was a real delight at 106 degrees. The Contemplation pool had two Africans lovers in it so I did not bother them. They were talking in what sounded like swahilly, an African language. I wondered if they got here legally. Non of my business! They had a beautiful appearance. And seemed to be deeply in love, hopefully.
As the hours passed people were cooling off by jumping into the creek. The water temp at where the beach area was 52 degrees. The water up stream from the Arizona pool was 50 degrees. The outside air temp was 86 degrees. Just before the sun started to go behind the mountain top a large cloud covered the sky cooling every thing and every one for the hike out and up hill. Perfect!
On this trip every one seemed to be very happy to be in my favorite hot spring.
EXCEPT !!! AS I was leaving I found a large bag with about 30 pounds of ugly stinking trash. As I got near to where the raft is to cross the creek I found a smaller bag with about 10 pounds of ugly stinking trash in it. So I put the small bag into the larger bag and hauled it up the big hill. This would have not have been possible if that big beautiful cloud were not there. WTF ! PLEASE every one. Help keep D.C.H.S. clean and beautiful. PLEASE!]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 26 May 2023 19:13:12 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27291,27291#msg-27291 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27291,27291#msg-27291
Thanks,
Ralph]]> NudstRalph Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 18 Jun 2025 13:50:28 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27284,27284#msg-27284 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27284,27284#msg-27284The creek is still above the Serenity and Crab Cooker pools, about 6-8 inches. When I looked at the Arizona pool it appears the large Boulder that makes up the west side of the pool has moved into the river about 2-4 feet. I was shocked! Also a large Boulder has lodged itself where the upstream barrier is. I had to feel around to see if that barrier was still there and could not tell if it is still there. We can only hope ? This shocked me to no end. The only thing certain in life is change. The water is over a foot higher than this pool and moving very rapidly.
While studying all of this a cool group of hippies came around demanding to know where any trash was. This lead to many interesting conversations. They were camping at the campground and had been to the springs 5 times. They said Sunday was a circus day because there were too many persons at the springs to have fun. There were only about 15 - 20 people there on Monday. Everyone had a happy time too. One old time regular in his 70s was at the pools also it was a real pleasure to see him. Someone has shoveled out a small pool just below where the Arizona pool spring is. The spring has moved uphill from where it used to be also. All the sand that used to be on the beach around the down stream side of the Arizona pool is gone. Exposing all the tree roots there.
While I was at it I got my hose out and vacuumed all the dead algae and such from the Anniversary pool. So next time yall show up be amazed at all these changes and HAPPY TAX DAY TO ALL!!!]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 21 Apr 2023 11:01:05 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27282,27282#msg-27282 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27282,27282#msg-27282
This Order is effective from March 3, 2023, through March 16, 2023.

Issued by San Bernardin National Forest

Affected Areas - San Bernardino County Mountains and Riverside County Mountains

An Emergency Forest Closure Order has been issued for lands effected by the recent snow storms. Please view the attached documents below to see the full Forest Order and News Release.

This closure order will be revised or rescinded as needed based on weather behavior and conditions on the ground.

Emergency Forest Closure Order
News Release - Extreme conditions brought on by snow affecting Forest operations]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 03 Mar 2023 08:49:08 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27278,27278#msg-27278 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27278,27278#msg-27278https://waterdata.usgs.gov/monitoring-location/10260500/?agency_cd=USGS#parameterCode=00060&period=P7D

Creek went up on the 21 when there wasnt any precip, then it dropped yesterday. Is there some kind of dam upstream that they release water from? I thought the only thing on dc was the mojave river forks dam all the way downstream.

Arizona pool was underwater yesterday with water almost at serenitt.]]> paulespo Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 06 Mar 2023 19:30:05 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27275,27275#msg-27275 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27275,27275#msg-27275National Weather Service San Diego CA
343 AM PST Wed Feb 22 2023

CAZ055-222300-
/O.CON.KSGX.WS.W.0005.000000T0000Z-230225T2300Z/
San Bernardino County Mountains-
Including the cities of Crestline, Lake Arrowhead, Big Bear City,
Big Bear Lake, Running Springs, and Wrightwood
343 AM PST Wed Feb 22 2023

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PST
SATURDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy snow. Winds gusting as high as 75 mph today.
Scattered snow showers will continue today with more widespread
snow showers on Thursday. Through Thursday night, snowfall is
expected to range from 1 to 2 feet above 6000 feet and 2 to 3
feet on the higher peaks with snowfall of at least 6 inches in
most areas.

* WHERE...San Bernardino County Mountains.

* WHEN...Until 3 PM PST Saturday.

* IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult to impossible. The
hazardous conditions could impact the morning or evening
commute. Very strong winds could cause extensive tree damage.
The cold wind chills as low as 15 below zero could result in
hypothermia if precautions are not taken.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...More widespread and heavier precipitation
is expected to develop on Friday and continue into Saturday.
Snow levels will rise to around 5000 feet Friday night, then
fall to around 3500 feet Saturday. The combination of very heavy
snow, low visibilities from snow, blowing snow, and fog, and
strong gusty south winds could create near-blizzard conditions
at times on Friday and Friday night and possibly into Saturday.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

If you must travel, keep an extra flashlight, food, and water in
your vehicle in case of an emergency.

The latest road conditions for the state you are calling from can
be obtained by calling 5 1 1.

&&

$$]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 22 Feb 2023 10:54:16 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27273,27273#msg-27273 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27273,27273#msg-27273About 12 persons were leaving the springs as I made it to the beach. About half had sleeping bags in tow. We can guess what they were up to. The water temp at the crossing was 39 degree. It was only up to my belly button and I am 6'2". Still too cold for this Florida boy, but so worth it.
I got angry at all the litter as I got to the beach above the Arizona pool. Later I picked up @ 40 pounds of ugly discussting trash. Most was on the beach before you crossed to the springs. Why do idiots break thick glass bottles then leave it on the beach? (Insert cuss word here)
There probably 30 person around the pools when I got there. About half were nude. I had not heard that schools were out for president' day, ever. There were 4 regulars on this trip.. There were many families with children, a surprise.
At 1:30 I got my pool themomenter out it said the air temp was a perfect 72 degrees and no breeze. Another perfect weather day.
The creek water temp above the Arizona pool was 39 degrees also.
All pool temps were taken near the pool center and near the surface.
The Arizona pool temp was 106 degrees. This pool was crowded most all day. Because it is most peoples favorite.
The Anniversary pool was 102 degrees and also full of happy soakers. The water was a little mucky however.
The Womb pool was 99 degrees and in need of cleaning. Some day...
The Serenity pool was 103 degrees. Many were going back and forth from hot to cold water. I am getting too old for that dang it.
The Crab Cooker pool was 114 degrees. What a delight!
The Contemplation pool was 88 degrees. What a shock, it is usually cooler than that. Plate tectonics perhaps?
Later I discovered that a couple had dammed up and made a pool at the source beside the Pacific coast trail. This was why the Anniversary pool was murky and also that made the pools below a little cooler also. So just before I left I took the damn down.
Everyone everywhere were happy this day. A side from an issue with some dogs everyone was glad to be at my favorite hiking destination.
Happy spring time everybody. And remember to take your ugly trash with you and help out with this problem. PLEASE?]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 21 Feb 2023 09:10:48 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27269,27269#msg-27269 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27269,27269#msg-27269https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepCreekHotSprings/
I would like to give some glory to the makers of the hot springs in our community. I was told some of you hang out on this online forum. If you are a creator of the pools or know a creator of the pools and would like to be interviewed, I would be so grateful to ask you some questions about your experience. My goal for the subreddit is to unite the existing users of the hot springs, rather than bring in new people that dont know about the springs (although I don't have a negative opinion on new comers). I would be sharing my interviews on the subreddit so that our community can share a thank you to those that helped make the pools, and get to know these great people.

thank you to those that help clean up trash, remove graffiti, clean the pools, and help keep the springs available to all of us that use them.

If you wish to talk 1 on 1, you can message the "moderator team" of r/deepcreekhotsprings https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepCreekHotSprings/ and I will respond.]]> deepcreekredditmoderator Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 22 Feb 2023 19:08:48 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27267,27267#msg-27267 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27267,27267#msg-27267It was 10:20 am when I pulled into the new and improved campground. Hiked in just as 3 Guatemalan immigrants, first timers, were very interested in learning about these hot springs. You may say I entertained them. And made them more excited to be in this country and at this gift of nature. They got an ear full. They thanked me more than a dozen times.
Many persons swam across the creek. The water was near freezing. It was almost up to my nipples for only about 5 feet in one spot crossing just down stream from the beach. The deep spot is just before you get the other side. Just 3 quick steps and you can get out to yell at your frozen muscles. And it is all so very worth it. The depth just beyond the permanent boulders there was over 5 feet. It was only 2 foot deep there before this last flood. Also, the beach just above the Arizona pool was washed away partially. A new rut has formed to the right side of the spring down to the bed rock. The tall plants to the right side of there were washed down stream almost 2 feet, unusual. As for trash, I only found 1 wine bottle and an ugly piece of burnt aluminum to haul out with me. A GREAT BIG THANK YOU TOO HUMM EVER! Is taking out trash. There were never more than 20 people at the springs at one time. No issues at all. Everyone happy all day long.
I had a thermometer with me but !!! It gave me too cold a reading to be believed. Every pool was clean and GREAT for soaking. I hope this helps everyone who is thinking of visiting.
Have a happy football celebration everyone !]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 14 Feb 2023 13:17:46 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27263,27263#msg-27263 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27263,27263#msg-27263
https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/deep-creek-hot-springs-trail]]> skittles Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 08 Feb 2023 10:24:39 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27261,27261#msg-27261 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27261,27261#msg-27261VICTORVILLE, CA. (VVNG.com) – The search for a missing 36-year-old Victorville man came to a tragic end, the family confirmed.

https://www.vvng.com/missing-victorville-man-hugo-oliver-found-dead/]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 23 Jan 2023 18:47:17 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27257,27257#msg-27257 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27257,27257#msg-27257 peciousaitiff Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 11 Jan 2023 21:34:38 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27255,27255#msg-27255 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27255,27255#msg-27255
https://www.yahoo.com/news/operation-dust-devil-week-2-235719018.html]]> Sam D. Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 07 Jan 2023 17:20:28 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27252,27252#msg-27252 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27252,27252#msg-27252So while talking to the campground managment I learned they had done a trash pickup at the springs. When I got to the springs it was almost no trash at all. BUT, when a Mexican family left I filled a 13 gallon bag of their stupid looking trash. This time I tied it onto my day pack on the way out.
The Anniversary pool was clean and pretty. Except, someone had diverted 90 % of the water flow directly to the Womb pool. Makeing the womb pool at about 104 degrees. And the anniverary pool @ 98 degress. The couple from San Diego notified me of this situation. So, I adjusted the flow back to 90 % back into the Anniversary pool. Just before hikeing out I soaked there for more than an hour alone, listening to the sound of the splashing water, my mind drifting off into nature. No one was there but me , myself and nature.
The Womb pool was algae free. No floaties or trash anywhere. The temp when I left was back to @ 102 degrees.
The Contemplation pool was in the low 80's. It was a little slippery from algae growth.
The Crab cooker pool seemed to be hotter than before. Too hot to sit in. Maybe the sun shining there had something to do about it. Or maybe a sign of earth plate tectonics?
Note to self: buy a infra red thermometer, soon.
The Serenity pool was very clean and refreshing. It gets hotter on the side where water comes in on the Crab cooker side and cooler on the Womb pool side. So it is nice for changing temps. Then jumping into the creek :=)
The creek has cleared up from looking like gravey soup to about 80% of its normal self. My 5 1/2 month old dog thought he had a chance of catching the fish or tadpoles. I constantly tell him, 'you got a lot to learn BOY!'
Oh! I forgot to tell the story of two young women I saw setting in the shade of the sign at the kiosk at the lower parking area. They yelled at me as to where the Bowen ranch was? They were from Hollywood. Another lost angel. . . So the songman sang. Of course I showed them the way. They had no water so I gave them my 1 quart power aide bottle that was still cold. They had got to the springs at 8am for their first time there. Spent 1 hour the springs. Then went down stream and climbed out. I suspect they climbed out from the Indian camp area. And were lost and thirsty. As always GLAD TO HELP! They told me they would be back, but better prepaired and wiser. Peace Out!]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSun, 02 Oct 2022 02:49:38 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27249,27249#msg-27249 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27249,27249#msg-27249The pool at the source next to the Pacific crest trail (P.C.T.) was damned up to make it about 1 foot deeper. This caused the Anniversary pool to be too cool for this weather. Sky had informed me but was unable to determine the cause. So I tore down the damn which caused the water in the pools below to warm back up. Some one has been keeping the algae from collecting in pools,Thanks to Sky, all the pools are clean and prestine.
About the freedom trailhead. The resent rains have caused erosion to increase on the road used for access. A high clearance vehicle is more nessary than before. But the area was clean and a great place for camping. I think it was 2 full moons ago when I was last there. I recommend the place for people who want to camp out with out a crowd and for lovers. It is great! But beware, anything is possible, I have been awakened by late night party animals when I least expected THAT. It is like I tell people, you never quite know what can or will happen when you go to the springs. Expect the unexpected, and enjoy yourself as much as possible. You may even run into me there. :=)]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 20 Sep 2022 10:50:29 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27247,27247#msg-27247 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27247,27247#msg-27247
More or less, hoping someone can help inform me on what's going on topside, and what the current recommendations are for parking/boondocking.]]> GeneralRap Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 21 Sep 2022 17:31:49 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27243,27243#msg-27243 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27243,27243#msg-27243
I'm posting on here mainly because "Sky" asked me to - he wanted to see if Jobe would see this. He seems to have done a lot down there, to my eyes (haven't been in a while). The piles of trash are all gone. There are a lot of "plantings" - some cactus up high on the beach area, some manzanita bushes, things like that. Even where there is not planting, has the creek been this lush in a while? Anniversary Pool almost has full shade cover with the reeds and trees and berry plants growing alongside, right up to the walls - like it used to have when a willow tree shaded the spot 20 years back. But Sky wanted me to let Jobe know the pool is leaking in at least three spots (though the pool was full to its level). And he is trying to fix a dam someone built up toward the source pools, diverting the flow with effects on the Womb pool mostly. So I am reporting that in to Tallahassee ...

Morning hours - just me and this guy Sky, a woman on her own floating on a raft, that's it. In the afternoon, maybe 10 people at most. I dismantled some fire rings, they are the obvious problem with most of the trash gone. Found a little bit of glass and bottle caps to hike out. The most evident issue is the rabid spread of graffiti on the trail from the desert side. There is stupid graffiti on half the rocks on the trail at this point. Its everywhere.

Otherwise, beautiful day, quietest day I've had out there since the pandemic. Really beautiful, the springs are right now.]]> neogeo Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSun, 18 Sep 2022 18:01:34 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27239,27239#msg-27239 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27239,27239#msg-27239
https://www.redlandscommunitynews.com/news/public_safety/sheriff-s-helicopter-and-firefighters-rescue-woman-who-fainted-on-deep-creek-trail/article_71891f22-0480-11ed-ba20-1f0e4e1f66f3.html
https://www.vvng.com/missing-hiker-found-dead-near-deep-creek-hot-springs-trailhead-in-apple-valley/

One-hundred-degree days are upon us. Bring lots of water, hike in the morning and evening, and be wise! The outdoors is too spectacular to have tragedy strike.]]> skittles Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 20 Jul 2022 17:48:55 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27237,27237#msg-27237 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27237,27237#msg-27237 awpangle Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 19 Jul 2022 23:02:57 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27233,27233#msg-27233 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27233,27233#msg-27233 skittles Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 06 Jul 2022 14:26:28 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27232,27232#msg-27232 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27232,27232#msg-27232If you know where it got stashed, please PM me. I am planning another trip to the Hot Springs soon. I always bring a scrub brush, and I would like to vacuum/siphon if it is needed.]]> SoCalHiker Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 24 Jun 2022 19:18:09 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27231,27231#msg-27231 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27231,27231#msg-27231The Contemplation pool was full and a real joy. I am guessing it was between 85-90 warm. I removed 5 sandbags from it that served no purpose.
The Anniversary pool was hotter than usual, but still a pleasure. For @ 10 minuets.
The Arizona pool was not full the water was @ 8-10 inches below from where it spills out. This causes the leaves to collect on the surface. I cleaned out most of them.
The Womb pool like the Anniversary pool was warmer than usual. Spent most of my soaking time there. Because it was so clean and great.
The Serenity pool had sandbags blocking the waters exit. That and the flow coming from the Crab Cooker pool made the temp much warmer. Also, someone had removed most of the sand there. Making for an excellent soak. Thank you to whom ever.
The temperature of the creek is near the summer temp range. But still nice enough to cool down some.
During the day, no more than 30 persons at the springs at any one time. The temperature was never over 80 degrees. Everybody was happy and friendly. No drama or issues of contention what so ever.
Had to leave early about 4:30. To go to a father's day party. Another ! GREAT ! reason to be alive.
Happy Father's day everyone!]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 18 Jun 2022 18:45:04 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27230,27230#msg-27230 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27230,27230#msg-27230The Contemplation pool was full and a real joy. I am guessing it was between 85-90 warm. I removed 5 sandbags from it that served no purpose.
The Anniversary pool was hotter than usual, but still a pleasure. For @ 10 minuets.
The Arizona pool was not full the water was @ 8-10 inches below from where it spills out. This causes the leaves to collect on the surface. I cleaned out most of them.
The Womb pool like the Anniversary pool was warmer than usual. Spent most of my soaking time there. Because it was so clean and great.
The Serenity pool had sandbags blocking the waters exit. That and the flow coming from the Crab Cooker pool made the temp much warmer. Also, someone had removed most of the sand there. Making for an excellent soak. Thank you to whom ever.
The temperature of the creek is near the summer temp range. But still nice enough to cool down some.
During the day, no more than 30 persons at the springs at any one time. The temperature was never over 80 degrees. Everybody was happy and friendly. No drama or issues of contention what so ever.
Had to leave early about 4:30. To go to a father's day party. Another ! GREAT ! reason to be alive.
Happy Father's day everyone!]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 18 Jun 2022 11:28:57 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27226,27226#msg-27226 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27226,27226#msg-27226 Naked Mayor Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 17 Jun 2022 05:59:06 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27225,27225#msg-27225 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27225,27225#msg-27225 juliankaye Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 04 Jun 2022 07:59:22 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27223,27223#msg-27223 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27223,27223#msg-27223 rcompton Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSun, 29 May 2022 22:03:08 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27220,27220#msg-27220 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27220,27220#msg-27220 Moe fromphoenix Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 23 May 2022 01:58:20 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27218,27218#msg-27218 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27218,27218#msg-27218
San Bernardino County will be performing roadwork on Rock Springs Road between Glendale Avenue and Deep Creek Rd.]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 14 Apr 2022 15:06:46 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27214,27214#msg-27214 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27214,27214#msg-27214As I sat on the rocks with Dave he spotted a water snake. He was only about 14 inches long. It is that time of the year again. Watersnakes are not poisonous.he swam aroud outside of the womb pool for @15 minuets.
After serveying the womb pool Dave and I determand. The womb pool was past time for a dead alge and debris cleaning. We spent 3 hours taking turns vacum cleaning the bottom of the pool. And only got about 90 % of the dead alge. Getting old SUCKS! The sandbags that chanel the hot water from the crab cooker pool are still in place. Makeing the Serenity pool about 6-8 inces deeper and much hotter. My thermometer was broke, some how? So no pool temps. The creek water is not too damn cold any more. Most peole were swimming in the creek. There was much entertainment this day Imagine, sitting in the springs, watching professional slage line walkers crossing the creek for hours. That is what me and 20 others did. It was wonderful.]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 08 Apr 2022 20:25:16 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27210,27210#msg-27210 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27210,27210#msg-27210 skittles Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 21 Mar 2022 08:06:16 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27207,27207#msg-27207 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27207,27207#msg-27207
And, somebody had brought a whole bunch of sandbags, i assume they filled them with the sand that washed up in the serenity pool. The sand bags were lining the serenity pool and diverting the crab cooker source to make some other mini pools. There were even extra sandbags to use. Not sure if this group was the same. Additionally there was concrete work visible at the bottom of the anniversary pool and at the channel that can be used to divert it to the womb.
Crowd was mostly textiles and mostly on psychedelics. Everyone was pretty chill, groups of 6 and several smaller couples, individuals, one family with 3 kids and some dogs throughout the day. Pretty busy for a Thursday but nothing surprising. No sign of machete man thankfully!]]> paulespo Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 21 Feb 2022 19:41:49 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27201,27201#msg-27201 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27201,27201#msg-27201
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/spring-equinox-hot-springs-trip-tickets-265378232437?aff=eand&fbclid=IwAR2eowqsxigLCOrWMHUOjaHx8JoxTgbTWL40Ud4dp4NdonlmsYzVOqdm5DE]]> Paul P. Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSun, 20 Mar 2022 19:04:03 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27174,27174#msg-27174 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27174,27174#msg-27174
I understand this man is delusional, has a machete and has been talking about using his sword on people. The rangers need to come down and remove him. He has been illegally camping at the hot springs.]]> Katrinaisland Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 05 Feb 2022 15:52:45 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27173,27173#msg-27173 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27173,27173#msg-27173 jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 19 Jan 2022 19:04:17 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27168,27168#msg-27168 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27168,27168#msg-27168 jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 22 Feb 2022 00:30:31 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27167,27167#msg-27167 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27167,27167#msg-27167 jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 06 Jan 2022 09:24:58 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27159,27159#msg-27159 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27159,27159#msg-27159of rain ,so Im hoping for the 30th. fingers croossed]]> Moe fromphoenix Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 03 Jan 2022 18:58:06 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27156,27156#msg-27156 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27156,27156#msg-27156 jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 11 Nov 2021 07:02:30 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27154,27154#msg-27154 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27154,27154#msg-27154
DeepCreekVolunteers.com]]> NudstRalph Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 25 Oct 2021 10:40:25 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27152,27152#msg-27152 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27152,27152#msg-27152
The forest-wide closures on the other three Southern California national forests – Angeles, Cleveland and San Bernardino – will also expire tonight with modified or updated fire use restrictions.

More than 7,400 wildfires have burned approximately 2.25 million acres across all jurisdictions in California this year. As of Sept. 20, the national preparedness level has been lowered to Preparedness Level 4 (PL4); the Northern California Geographic Area was also lowered to PL4 while the Southern California Geographic Area remains at PL4. Los Padres National Forest continues to monitor conditions on the forest for public and firefighter safety as the potential danger continues for high-intensity fires and large fire growth.

Los Padres officials wish to thank the public for the patience and understanding that has been shown during this challenging fire season. For more information, please visit the Forest website at http://www.fs.usda.gov/lpnf.]]> Rick California Hot SpringsSun, 26 Sep 2021 12:17:41 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27150,27150#msg-27150 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27150,27150#msg-27150
The Regional Order that closed public access to all national forests in California through Sept. 17 will be rescinded tomorrow. Due to ongoing high fire danger and active wildfires across the West, the Southern California national forests will remain closed for another week to better provide for public and firefighter safety. Large numbers of fire personnel from the Southern California national forests are currently demobilizing and returning to their home units after weeks of nonstop work.

By temporarily reducing the numbers of people on the Forest, this closure order will minimize the likelihood that visitors could become entrapped during an emergency and decrease the potential for new fire starts at a time of extremely limited firefighting resources. Severe and persistent drought due to hot and dry weather has led to rapid growth and increasingly unpredictable fire behavior across Northern California with no relief expected until late fall. Conditions in Southern California are similar and likely to worsen.

Currently, there are 11 large uncontained fires burning on National Forest System lands statewide, and there are more than 15,000 personnel, 303 crews and 1,113 engines committed to fire fighting in California. This closure order is intended to reduce the likelihood of a new fire start over the next week.

San Bernardino National Forest officials wish to thank the public for the patience and understanding that has been shown during this challenging fire season.]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 15 Sep 2021 18:51:22 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27147,27147#msg-27147 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27147,27147#msg-27147
“We do not take this decision lightly but this is the best choice for public safety,” said Regional Forester Jennifer Eberlien. “It is especially hard with the approaching Labor Day weekend, when so many people enjoy our national forests.”

Factors that led to this decision include:

1. By temporarily reducing the numbers of people on national forests, we hope to minimize the likelihood that visitors could become entrapped on National Forest System lands during emergency circumstances.

2. The closure order will also decrease the potential for new fire starts at a time of extremely limited firefighting resources, and enhance firefighter and community safety by limiting exposure that occurs in public evacuation situations, especially as COVID-19 continues to impact human health and strain hospital resources.

3. Due to state-wide conditions, any new fire starts have the potential for large and rapid fire growth with a high risk to life and property. The Forest Service and our partners are absolutely doing all we can to fight these fires and will continue to do so, but the conditions dictate the need for this region-wide closure order.

4. Forecasts show that conditions this season are trending the same or worse as we move into late summer and fall.

5. Although the potential for large fires and risk to life and property is not new, what is different is that we are facing: (a) record level fuel and fire conditions; (b) fire behavior that is beyond the norm of our experience and models such as large, quick runs in the night; (c) significantly limited initial attack resources, suppression resources, and Incident Command Teams to combat new fire starts and new large fires; and (d) no predicted weather relief for an extended period of time into the late fall.

The following persons are exempt from this Order:

1. Persons with Forest Service Permit No. FS-7700-48 (Permit for Use of Roads, Trails, or Areas Restricted by Regulation or Order), specifically exempting them from this Order.

2. Any Federal, State, or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty.

3. Persons with a Forest Service special use authorization for an electric transmission line, an oil or gas pipeline, communications site, or any other non-recreation special use.

4. Commercial recreational special-use permit holders and their customers are not exempt from this Order. However, commercial recreational special-use permit holders, under the terms and conditions of their permit, may access their permit areas to conduct administrative functions and to protect property and related assets. Recreation residence permit holders are not exempt from this Order.

5. Persons with a Forest Service non-special-use written authorization to conduct non-recreational activities, such as harvesting timber or forest products, or grazing livestock.

6. Owners or lessees of land, and residents of such private landholdings, to the extent necessary to access their land.

7. Persons engaged in a business, trade, or occupation are not exempt from the prohibitions listed above, but may use National Forest System roads to the extent necessary to carry out their business, trade, or occupation. More than 6,800 wildfires have burned 1.7 million acres across all jurisdictions in California, and the National Wildfire Preparedness Level (PL) has been at PL5 since July 14, 2021, only the third time in the past 20 years that the nation has reached PL 5 by mid-July – indicating the highest level of wildland fire activity.

The Forest Service thanks our partners and the public for their cooperation and understanding of this extreme public safety and fire threat. Citizens with specific questions within their area should consult their local forest website or social media pages for more information.]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 22 Sep 2021 14:30:55 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27143,27143#msg-27143 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27143,27143#msg-27143On Saturday, July 17, two helicopter crews from San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Aviation, based at San Bernardino International Airport, air rescued a group of hikers suffering from dehydration from the Deep Creek Hot Springs area near Twin Peaks.

https://www.highlandnews.net/news/public_safety/six-hikers-hoist-rescued/article_c65e8674-eb25-11eb-a41c-135926ac6978.html]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 24 Jul 2021 01:24:01 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27142,27142#msg-27142 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27142,27142#msg-27142SOLVANG, Calif. – Due to extremely dry vegetation and an increasing fire danger, Los Padres National Forest officials today announced that additional fire restrictions will go into effect beginning tomorrow, July 15, 2021. The following restrictions will be rigorously enforced until the end of the declared fire season:

• Wood and charcoal fires are prohibited in all areas of Los Padres National Forest including designated Campfire Use sites; however persons with a valid California Campfire Permit are allowed to use portable stoves and lanterns using gas, jellied petroleum or pressurized liquid fuel within the designated Campfire Use Sites only. You must clear all flammable material for a distance of five feet in all directions from your camp stove, have a shovel available, and ensure that a responsible person attends the stove at all times when it is in use. California Campfire Permits are available for free download from the Los Padres National Forest website (http://www.fs.usda.gov/lpnf).
• Recreational target shooting is prohibited in all areas of the National Forest except in the two shooting ranges under special use permit, i.e., Winchester Canyon Gun Club and Ojai Valley Gun Club; however, hunting with a valid State of California hunting license during open hunting season is exempt from this restriction.
• Smoking is prohibited in all areas of the national forest except within an enclosed vehicle, building, or designated Campfire Use Site.
• Fireworks are prohibited at all times and in all locations within Los Padres National Forest.
• Operating or using any internal or external combustion engine without a spark arresting device properly installed, maintained and in effective working order on roads and trails specifically designated for such use. This restriction is in effect year-round.

Violators are subject to a $5,000 fine and/or six months in jail, and could be liable for the full cost of any fire suppression activities that result from their actions. For further information regarding current conditions as well as safety tips, contact your nearest Forest Service office or visit the Los Padres National Forest website at https://www.fs.usda.gov/lpnf.

This Order is effective through December 31, 2021.]]> Rick California Hot SpringsFri, 16 Jul 2021 13:46:08 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27140,27140#msg-27140 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27140,27140#msg-27140

• Campfires and wood/charcoal barbeques at unhosted campgrounds and picnic areas
• Discharging of a firearm
• Smoking
• Operating an internal combustion engine off paved, gravel or dirt National Forest System roads and trails
• Welding, or operating acetylene or other torch with open flame

There are some exemptions, however. For example, several campgrounds and picnic areas with full-time hosts will allow campfires, barbeques and smoking. Gas-powered stoves and fire rings with a fuel shutoff will be also allowed, including when dispersed camping, if used with a free California Campfire Permit, which can be obtained online. It is important for permit holders to carefully read and follow the terms of the permit.

Another exemption addresses discharging a firearm. While target shooting at recreational sites like Forest Road 1N09 will be prohibited, it will continue to be allowed at shooting ranges under a special use permit. Additionally, visitors with a hunting license will be able to shoot at legal game bird or mammal.

As fire restrictions may increase again later this year, Forest visitors are highly encouraged to always "know before you go" prior to each visit by checking current fire restrictions online or calling a ranger station.]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 24 Jun 2021 11:18:42 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27138,27138#msg-27138 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27138,27138#msg-27138 PCThiker251 Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 25 Jan 2022 19:23:49 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27137,27137#msg-27137 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27137,27137#msg-27137 Dalejohnson13 Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 21 Jun 2021 07:45:04 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27134,27134#msg-27134 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27134,27134#msg-27134Jesse_Bennett@fws.gov]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 15 Jun 2021 18:59:24 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27131,27131#msg-27131 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27131,27131#msg-27131DEEP CREEK HOT SPRINGS, Calif. (VVNG.com) — A 21-year-old hiking in the Deep Creek Hot Springs was hoist rescued from the remote area after falling ill Saturday afternoon.

https://www.vvng.com/ill-hiker-hoist-rescued-from-deep-creek-hot-springs/]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 15 Jun 2021 11:07:14 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27128,27128#msg-27128 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27128,27128#msg-27128 juliankaye Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 12 May 2021 06:04:00 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27122,27122#msg-27122 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27122,27122#msg-27122 Rick California Hot SpringsMon, 10 May 2021 11:12:20 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27118,27118#msg-27118 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27118,27118#msg-27118
So .... the last time I visited, there was no Deep Creek Campground yet. They were bulldozing the road to the parking from their new entry. I contemplated the Freedom Trail, but then decided why not try it. It was easy though weird to wind up at the parking lot we always knew as the Bowen Ranch but yet not, and lots of activity trying to care for the area more than was the norm in the past. Trash was not in evidence around the campsites, things were tidy more or less, and I could see some buildout down in the valley where the springs by the Ranch always were, I guess this is where the showers will be or are now? I would camp there, for sure. I just hope it isn't pulling more people out to the springs than normal, all this. Only one other car in the lot in evidence, and nothing over at Freedom from what I could see.

Beautiful hike down. Still spring blooms. Passed three young women hiking out, one at a time, not together. They said it would be quiet down there, and at the springs, as I arrived, there were only three people. So I cooled off in the lagoon and then into the Womb, which I had to myself in the shaded morning. Also had Anniversary to myself a little later. Maybe 20-25 people by the mid afternoon, like normal times I thought, and about 50/50 naturist, with some of the never noods joining our team as the day wore on, and with lots of laughter. Met a few PCT hikers. Saw Chuck and Coppertone in terms of regulars. Really had a great visit.

The Contemplation Pool seems to have sprung a few leaks. It is mostly empty. I thought maybe someone was draining it for cleaning, but the pools in general seem not to have been cleaned in some time. Lots of algae if you soak. But no, it wasn't empty for cleaning. The other pools were all great. I stayed mostly out of them if there was a crowd, and with the low number of visitors, had pools to myself quite a lot. The pile of trash on the beach, around the Woodsy sign, is ridiculous. Really bad - tents, containers, food, a metal folding chair, equipment, pillows and cushions, whatever. The squirrels were constantly in it, making it worse. And there was an army of them, everywhere. They were in my pack, hung high on a tree - the trees that remain, there are some very sad stumps where I once hung my hammock and laid in the shade - they were in it by 10 am already and would not stop their assault. They got part of my food, and ripped open 3 other guys' packs, during the day. I was thinking maybe the rattlers have been attacked by visitors, I've seen some videos posted by the lug heads online, but at least one rattler did show up, and hung out in the bush next to the Phoenix pool all day.

So that's the bad: fire rings all over the once pristine sand. Chopped down trees that should have been loved and cared for. A big pile of trash. Armies of robber baron squirrels. But the place still looked extremely beautiful to me. The Yerba mansa grove behind the pool area in full bloom. Green everywhere. Flowers and gorgeous birds. Ducks in the creek, catfish, tadpoles as big as your palm, life everywhere in abundance. Met some great people, and talked all day as one does. Read a book in the shade. Swam, soaked with my umbrella for shade. Deconditioned for my hike out after the long time away. I will be building back and getting back in shape I hope, and hope the same for the springs.]]> neogeo Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 12 May 2021 11:28:24 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27117,27117#msg-27117 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27117,27117#msg-27117
Hiked in on 4/11 to the springs, which were pretty crowded. Maybe 50 to 60 people, the majority of the them textiles, but a few groups of people getting undressed/topless. Not much room for social distancing in the pools, but at this point if you aren't vaccinated that's kind of on you. There's a bit of trash around, but I've seen it way worse. It's getting to the time of year when, even overcast, you need to be reapplying sunscreen! Saw a drunk dude nearly fall off the trail on the hike back up - he skinned his knees and legs up pretty badly. I guess my message is just be careful out there.]]> peciousaitiff Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 30 Apr 2021 07:21:34 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27115,27115#msg-27115 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27115,27115#msg-27115
To be clear, I do NOT want to camp AT the springs. For one, I know it's illegal and I don't want to deal with legal consequences for me or for conservation efforts @ the springs. And secondly, I like to camp with a lot of gear (stove, cooler, etc) that I certainly could not carry down the trail with me.

But what I'm asking is: Has anyone camped close to the springs (ie within hiking distance of the actual pools)? If so, where, and what did you think of it? Anything I should pack for the desert-style landscape that I wouldn't think of, as someone who's normally in forest?]]> peciousaitiff Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 15 Apr 2021 23:12:04 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27111,27111#msg-27111 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27111,27111#msg-27111SOLVANG, Calif.— Los Padres National Forest officials announced that a portion of East Camino Cielo Road on the Santa Barbara Ranger District will be closed to the public during road construction scheduled for April and May.

The section that will close to ensure worker and public safety is on East Camino Cielo from Cold Springs Saddle to Romero Saddle. The construction work will be extensive and require the roadway to be dug up, reinforced with new crib walls, and repaved. Public motorists will not be allowed to use the road until the construction project is completed. This closure will restrict access to Pendola as well as the Divide Peak OHV area and the top of Romero Trail.

This roadway suffered extensive storm damage in 2017 and recently received emergency funding from the Federal Highways Administration to begin construction,

The road will be closed to the public from April 1 through May 31. Violations could result in a fine of $5,000 or six months in prison. For questions on this project or to get a current conditions update, please contact the Santa Barbara Ranger District at +1 805 448-3648.]]> Rick California Hot SpringsTue, 11 May 2021 19:03:38 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27109,27109#msg-27109 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27109,27109#msg-27109 jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 02 Apr 2021 09:57:46 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27107,27107#msg-27107 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27107,27107#msg-27107Got down to the springs shortly after 8am. Nobody, absolutely no-one was there. All to myself.

I Did some "pool maintenance", got some suction going with the blue pool tube. Cleaned out the "womb" a bit, then sucked a whole lot of stuff out of the upper pool.

No-one showed up until after 9am. Stayed most of the day and met some really cool people.]]> SoCalHiker Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 19 Mar 2021 23:03:38 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27104,27104#msg-27104 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27104,27104#msg-27104 peciousaitiff Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 16 Mar 2021 11:24:31 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27096,27096#msg-27096 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27096,27096#msg-27096
https://youtu.be/dFCsasv_cdM]]> paulespo Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 19 Jun 2021 11:17:51 -0700 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27093,27093#msg-27093 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27093,27093#msg-27093As I got to the Mofo hill, which is the last big hill before descending down to the creek, I meet an angel. Or rather, a young woman named Angel. She was hiking in the nude. I told her it was both legal and accepted to hike nude here. So she quit trying to cover herself. She said she was from San Diego and it was her first time here.
When we got to the creek there were about 40 persons. All were nude, except a few women had shorts or more accurately g-strings on. I could tell by this I was among my own people and it was going 2 B a very nice day. There were 4 people with trash bags picking up any trash they could find. Another good sign.
I had visited on Sunday and there were more than 100 people at the springs, perhaps 150. So I left early. I noticed the Womb pool was clouded with dead algae. It was too crowded to do anything about this. So I made this trip to remedy the dead algae situation.
The creek water near the beach where the most cross was 52 degrees. Eight feet upstream from the Phoenix pool the temp was 47 degrees. The creek was less than 2 feet deep at the point where most cross.
All temperatures are from the center of the pools and near the surface.
The Phoenix pool was 104 degrees. This pool was cristal clear and aquamarine. A truly good soak.
The Anniversary pool was 104 degrees also.
The Womb pool was 98 degrees. And as clean as I could manage. Thanks to all who helped.
The Serenity pool was 107 degrees.
The Crab Cooker pool was 113 degrees. The sun was shining while I soaked there.
The Contemplation pool was 85 degrees. Warmer than expected. Possibly because of the Angel soaking there.
Jason and Howard were the 2 regulars who were as happy as could be this day self-included.
Another classic soaking day at my favorite soaking destination. Be safe and PARTY ON!]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 04 Mar 2021 14:50:22 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27084,27084#msg-27084 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27084,27084#msg-27084I missed the whole 2020 soaking year and am ready to enjoy a few hours this week . Thanks!]]> Trailgal Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 16 Feb 2021 02:37:35 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27082,27082#msg-27082 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27082,27082#msg-27082National Weather Service San Diego CA
332 AM PST Thu Jan 28 2021

CAZ043-048-050-055>058-552-554-281945-
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San Diego County Coastal Areas-San Bernardino and Riverside County
Valleys-The Inland Empire-San Diego County Valleys-San Bernardino
County Mountains-Riverside County Mountains-Santa Ana Mountains and
Foothills-San Diego County Mountains-Orange County Coastal Areas-
Orange County Inland Areas-
Including the cities of Vista, Ontario, Santee, Idyllwild-Pine Cove,
Fontana, Garden Grove, Fullerton, Orange, Santa Ana, National City,
Riverside, Poway, Big Bear Lake, Oceanside, Big Bear City, San
Diego, Lake Arrowhead, Irvine, El Cajon, Newport Beach, Escondido,
Chula Vista, Crestline, San Clemente, Wrightwood, Corona, Anaheim,
Huntington Beach, San Bernardino, Moreno Valley, Mission Viejo,
Laguna Beach, Julian, Pine Valley, Costa Mesa, La Mesa, Encinitas,
Running Springs, San Marcos, Carlsbad, and Rancho Cucamonga
332 AM PST Thu Jan 28 2021

...FLASH FLOOD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH
FRIDAY AFTERNOON...

The Flash Flood Watch continues for

* Coast, valleys, and mountains below 5500 feet in southwestern
California.

* From this evening through Friday afternoon

* Showers with moderate to locally heavy rainfall will impact areas
west of the mountains below 5500 feet, including the Apple, El
Dorado, Bond, Silverado, Blueridge, and Valley burn scars. Showers
will develop this evening, becoming more widespread tonight into
Friday. The heaviest rain is expected to begin before midnight,
lasting through 6 AM Friday with periods of showers continuing
through Friday afternoon. Rainfall rates of 0.50 inch to 0.60 inch
per hour are expected. There is a slight chance of thunderstorms
tonight and Friday. Rainfall is expected to range from around 1.5
inch near the coast to 2 inches near the lower coastal slopes of
the mountains, with 2 to 3 inches of rainfall on coastal slopes of
the mountains below 5500 feet.

* Heavy rainfall can lead to areas of flash flooding, as well as mud
and debris flows near burn scars, especially the Apple, El Dorado,
and Bond burn scars.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Stay away or be swept away. Know your escape routes. Be ready to act
immediately and heed all evacuation orders. Keep updated on the
latest weather forecasts.

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17]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 28 Jan 2021 10:49:21 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27080,27080#msg-27080 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27080,27080#msg-27080https://www.sfgate.com/california-parks/article/san-francisco-death-valley-saline-warm-springs-15886069.php]]> Katrinaisland Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSun, 24 Jan 2021 18:41:57 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27078,27078#msg-27078 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27078,27078#msg-27078
Palm Springs source pool, Saline Valley Warm Springs, Death Valley National Park
NPS

DEATH VALLEY, CA – Inyo County Sheriff’s Office and the National Park Service report an accidental death of a man at Saline Valley Warm Springs on December 20, 2020. Donald Vanneman III was a 63-year-old resident of San Francisco. Warm Springs Campground, along with all other Death Valley National Park campgrounds, is temporarily closed due to California’s Regional Stay at Home Orders. The volunteer campground host noticed Mr. Vanneman’s vehicle, but was unable to find him early on December 20. Later that day, two park visitors discovered his body in the Palm Springs source pool.

National Park Service regulations prohibit entry directly into the source pool at Palm Springs. Bathing is normally allowed in the man-made soaking tubs, however those are currently drained and closed due to COVID restrictions.]]> Rick California Hot SpringsTue, 19 Jan 2021 11:13:38 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27076,27076#msg-27076 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27076,27076#msg-27076Primary amoebic meningoencephalitis (PAM), a deadly disease caused by the 'brain-eating amoeba' Naegleria fowleri, is becoming more common in some areas of the world, and it has no effective treatment. Now, researchers have found that a compound isolated from the leaves of a traditional medicinal plant, Inula viscosa or 'false yellowhead,' kills the amoebae by causing them to commit cell suicide in lab studies, which could lead to new treatments.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/01/210113132411.htm]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaThu, 14 Jan 2021 18:05:48 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27073,27073#msg-27073 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27073,27073#msg-27073Naegleria fowleri, the amoeba's scientific name, is known to prefer warm, freshwater environments. When inhaled through the nose of humans, typically when swimming in lakes or rivers, it can cause a rare type of brain infection known as primary amebic meningoencephalitis, or PAM. The infection is nearly always fatal.

https://weather.com/health/news/2020-12-22-brain-eating-amoeba-farther-north-climate-change]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSun, 03 Jan 2021 13:11:58 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27070,27070#msg-27070 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27070,27070#msg-27070
The purpose of the Regional Order is to protect visitors and U.S. Forest Service employees by reducing potential exposure to COVID-19 and mitigating any further burden on our emergency responders and healthcare facilities. Current projections show that without additional steps to slow the spread of coronavirus, the number of available adult Intensive Care Unit (ICU) beds in California will reach capacity by mid-December. As California along with the rest of the nation continues to experience an unprecedented surge in new COVID-19 cases, the rate of new increases threatens to overwhelm the state’s hospital system.

In response, the state on December 3 issued a Regional Stay-at-Home Order for areas where the number of adult ICU beds has fallen below 15 percent of capacity. The U.S. Forest Service’s Regional Order aligns with California’s December 3 Order that prohibits “overnight stays at campgrounds” while permitting the continued operation of outdoor recreation facilities in these areas.

Developed day use areas as well as hiking, dispersed camping and Off Highway Vehicle trails will remain open for use in Los Padres National Forest.

Visitors who have existing reservations at Los Padres National Forest concessionaire-managed campgrounds are encouraged to contact Parks Management Company or https://Recreation.gov to reschedule their visit or request a refund.

We encourage visitors to be familiar with and follow current federal and state guidelines for responsible recreation activities on public lands. Please keep health, safety and natural resources in mind when visiting Los Padres National Forest. Together, our personal responsibility will help to ensure public safety and prevent further restrictions.

Additional public information is available at Los Padres National Forest’s public website.]]> Rick California Hot SpringsFri, 11 Dec 2020 10:04:28 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27067,27067#msg-27067 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27067,27067#msg-27067The Serenity Pool was the best place to soak on this day trip. It was 109 degrees. This is the pool just below the Womb pool. Someone put sandbags in such a way that all of the water from the Crab Cooker pool was flowing into the Serenity Pool. The Crab Cooker Pool is the hottest pool next to the rock cliff. It was only 112 degrees. Before I left I soaked there for about 30 minutes. As the water in the creek is too cold for this Florida boy. But, As I was sitting in the Phoenix Pool a guy volunteered to take the temperature there. He said it was 47 degrees. This was just outside of where the water from this pool flows into the creek. It is most likely colder everywhere else. On this day trip, I only saw 2 hot spring regulars. They know who you are, Good luck Chuck. You KNOW why. As the day went on it got to most likely over 100 people. The Contemplation pool, the cool pool behind the big rocks, was 75 degrees. This was one day where people were not drinking or smoking herbs. Which as most know is unusual. It made for a very nice day. On the way out I counted seven more persons with sleeping bags and flashlights were coming down the trail. You can guess why. Happy NUDE year everybody!]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaTue, 08 Dec 2020 09:55:45 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27062,27062#msg-27062 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27062,27062#msg-27062
"The shorter days and colder temperatures can make it feel like we are out of peak fire season, but that is not the case," said Deputy Fire Chief Scott Howes. "Visitors need to be as cautious as ever with anything that could spark a fire."

Current fire restrictions and fire-related safety prohibitions include:

• No campfires
• No smoking
• No target shooting
• No dispersed or yellow post camping (only a few developed campgrounds are open)
• No entering the burn areas for the Apple, El Dorado and Snow fires

A full list of restrictions and related prohibitions can be found on the Forest's website.]]> Rick Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaMon, 23 Nov 2020 20:05:01 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27061,27061#msg-27061 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27061,27061#msg-27061
I went back just two days later on 11/21 and it is SO MUCH WORSE. In fact, this was an overall BAD trip to the springs.

Seemingly every quarter mile, there's graffiti. One says "you tha man," another says "keep going," another says "san bernardino ca" ... and maybe the most egregious a-hole move of all, a crude spray-painting of a naked woman's torso with an arrow pointing down the trail. As if it's "hike this way for boobs." It's really really infurating.

Add to that the increased amount of trash - someone left an empty cardboard box from their camping gear along the trail... people making illegal fires with half-burned trash inside of them.... it was awful. AND the springs were jam-packed. 12 to 15 people per pool. No one wearing masks. Three different people BLARING loud music. People getting falling-down drunk and crawling over each other, risking injury to people they were falling on. It was despicable, not at all the vibe of the springs. This is the kind of crap that makes me so mad about Instagram geotags of DCHS... part of me wants them to shut it all down for a bit to clear it out.

If you see people doing this stupid crap, please call them out. Don't bring people who are going to be disrespectful of others or nature. It makes it so much less fun for us.]]> peciousaitiff Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaWed, 23 Dec 2020 08:48:06 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27060,27060#msg-27060 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27060,27060#msg-27060
Hiked in from Bowen around 11:30. A few new bits of graffiti on boulders on the way down (at least the message was uplifting instead of hate speech this time). Water in the creek is pretty cold, but not the frigid nightmare it can be sometimes - plus it was shallow enough I was barely knee-deep crossing over. The lowest pool (I think it's called the womb? Sorry, I can never remember the names) was entirely submerged, despite the creek not being that high.

Decent crowd for a Thursday. A group of 10 guys or so in Speedos at the Phoenix pool... a couple of nude guys sharing wine and romance in another pool, so I left them alone... 4 nude women speaking Russian (I think?)... and then two more women (textile) arrived later.

Not a lot of trash. Someone left a camping chair at GET NAKED beach (which right now does not have its signature rock message), though.

It's my favorite time of year at the springs where it's cool enough that I wear a sweatshirt and nothing else on the hike. Got funny looks from a guy as I was hiking out - if he wasn't expecting nudity, he was in for a surprise when he got to the bottom!]]> peciousaitiff Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaFri, 20 Nov 2020 06:55:11 -0800 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27058,27058#msg-27058 https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27058,27058#msg-27058When I got to the last big hill before getting to the springs, I met a lovely couple from Santa Cruze, first timers. So I showed them around and explained history to them some. They were very grateful.
There were @ 40 to 50 persons enjoying the spring's throughout the day, mostly nude. The creek was 58 degrees at the beach crossing. Many were still swimming about. Diving from rocks and having a good time. Some one had repaired the Phoenix pool. It was as full as it can get and the hottest pool at 108 degrees. The anniversary pool was 104 degrees and full of happy people. The Womb pool was too. It was 101 degrees.
About 400 pm when I headed out I noticed there was not much trash around the spring's. Thanks every one.]]> jobe Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, CaliforniaSat, 07 Nov 2020 15:59:51 -0800