mojavedreams

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mojavegreen — Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:38:44 -0800

Or E-mail Ranger Nelson at the BLM Barstow Field Office and have a record of your complaint:

barry_Nelson@ca.blm.gov

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LaughingBear — Mon, 23 Feb 2004 16:48:35 -0800

BLM Chief Ranger Nelson 760-252-6070

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Paul P. — Mon, 23 Feb 2004 16:43:00 -0800

Right on, Wizard! I just wish that BLM would try to stop some of this illegal OHV activity .

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Wizard — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:02:59 -0800

I would concur with your observation Paul. Its apparent that the disagreement between some local residents has become more prominent on the issues of OHV activity in the areas surrounding the Bowen Ranch Road. Hopefully no harm will come to anyone because of this elevated tension between these opposed parties.

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Paul P. — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:22:07 -0800

Hi Wizard, Laughing Bear's description pretty much matches the mulitude of forum discussions regarding the behavior of the the Bowen Ranch gatekeeper. I'm not takin' sides, only pointing out the similarities ;-)

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Wizard — Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:02:06 -0800

Also Paul, I was originally going to comment on your post specifically, but went on to respond to the other general discussion before your post, so, if your viewing this forum in the " threaded view ", didn't want you to think that I was posing these questions to you specifically. I would add, that it would appear that we are " drifting " in the same direction regarding this subject :-)

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Wizard — Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:31:44 -0800

So, who is this lawless fellow? Kinda hard to know which " drifter " to avoid, based on the aforementioned information :-) Is his name to threatening to even speak of, or is it not known? Kinda like when the government request that we be alert, be vigilant, but gives us nothing specific to look out for :-) So far what we got is a lawless male motorcycle rider who carries a gun and does what he wants. Perhaps to mention his name would lead us away from the kinder, gentler forum of recent times. I would however offer up that if we are being truly warned, then the subject of the warning needs to be clearly specified, so those that may be affected can do solid things to protect themselves from this suggested threatening person.

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Paul P. — Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:40:20 -0800

Laughing Bear wrote

This fellow is clearly prepared to "deal" with anyone who objects to his lawlessness. Careful out there!

Hmmm, this description is strikingly familiar (anyone else get my drift ;-)

Juniper Flats treated differently?

katrina island — Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:05:32 -0800

I recently found out that the BLM received a grant to deal with these issues over at El Mirage Lake. The BLM worked with the private landowners and CORVA (California Off Road Vehicle Assn) to reduce the off road activity on private land.

So, we know that the BLM has taken action on this same problem only in a different area. We know that both Riverside and San Bernardino Sheriff have taken action before in other areas regarding this same problem.

Is Juniper Flats being treated differently?

Re: gun-toting lawlessness

mojavegreen — Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:58:09 -0800

Laughing Bear wrote

This fellow is clearly prepared to "deal" with anyone who objects to his lawlessness. Careful out there!

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LaughingBear — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:05:44 -0800

We have been asking this question for a while now with no response from the BLM law enforcement so far. With the recent escalation of OHV motorcycle non complience in the area, one has to wonder. It is not due to a lack of documentation and reporting. Motorcyclists continue to vandalize fences and create new routes in the area with new tracks being reported within the USFS non motorized vehicle area of Deep Creek. One local motorcycle rider was reported to be boasting he will ride wherever he wants to and carries a gun with him "in case of any trouble". Local volunteers documenting this damage are armed with BLM flyers to educate the public with and a camera to document damage. We will not be intimidated with any threats of violence and will continue our work. If any new damage is noted by hotspringers in the area, please report it so we can check it out. Thanks to everyone for your support.

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sycamorelaughing — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:13:41 -0800

They are doing it in other places...what will it take to get some enforcement around here?

One or two weekend crackdowns with citations issued and/or bikes confiscated would send a message to counter those who think that they can ride wherever they like in our area because, even if there are rules, no one enforces them!

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mojavegreen — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:21:25 -0800

Laughing Bear writes:

"Up in Kern County, law enforcement has been known to confiscate OHVs of illegal riders."

My understanding is that BLM Law Enforcement has the right to confiscate OHV's and has done so in other areas subjected to a high level of OHV non-compliance.

The will to act is a pre-requisite.

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LaughingBear — Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:55:30 -0800

Up in Kern County, law enforcement has been known to confiscate OHVs of illegal riders.

mojavedreams

katrina island — Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:44:05 -0800

Today in The Press-Enterprise

www.PE.com and you would need to sign in

"Authorities issued 63 citations Sunday morning as part of a crackdown on off-road vehicles on private property in the Rubidoux, Sunnyslope and Glen Avon areas, the Riverside County Sheriff's Department reported."