Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic) Hi! Sorry for the off topic.... but I have a question to Jobe please. Jobe, do you think, given the weather forecast for Vegas, it's a good time to visit Gold Strike? I might be in Vegas from Tue to Thur and contemplating the visit to the HS. Is the water hot enough to be enjoyed? Are you in Vegas now? If yes, when do you think you'll be going? I might ask you if I can come along. Many thanks in advance, -Sam D.http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18634#msg-18634Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:23:47 -0700 Phorum 5.2.10 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18662#msg-18662 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18662#msg-18662I call them crime animals. They and we would be better off trying to catch the litter bugs out there. Because Lake Mead is one huge waste basket. So much so it grosses me out to put my boat in there.]]> jobe U.S.A. Hot SpringsSat, 26 Dec 2009 11:24:31 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18661#msg-18661 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18661#msg-18661
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Camping is NOT a crime !

Sometimes it is, Rodney. You try camping in my living room and you'll quickly find that it is a crime. Society has rules; we call people that break those rulese "criminals".]]> Rick U.S.A. Hot SpringsSat, 26 Dec 2009 11:13:52 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18660#msg-18660 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18660#msg-18660Before I left Vegas around the first of October this is what happened:
Meet up .com is a social network of hikers I joined a few years back. On one of their camping trips to G.S.H.S.I went also. We were having a good time sipping wine and soaking. Before all of this on their website a Federal officer came online and said it was against federal regs to charge for this trip. I thought it was a joker. The trip organizer asked everyone to donate to an orphanage instead. They charge 1$ per person.
While we were enjoying our camping a group of 3 Federal officers appeared out of the darkness. This was at 11:00 pm. This was unbelievable to me. Of course they had to flash their badges and guns to prove their point. They wanted to know if anyone had any weapons. To which I answered you would have to be stupid to have weapons here. We all said together NO ! Before this as they were sneaking around our camp site they asked 3 naked people in the hot pool to get dressed. They said they had come up the river in a boat.
It is my opinion that the Federal government has gone out of their way to enforce draconian regulations that are too unfair. Of course they did ignore the wine bottle someone left next to the cliff. And it could have been much worse than it was. But they did go too far for my taste for justice. And monitoring hikers web sites ???
Camping is NOT a crime !]]> jobe U.S.A. Hot SpringsSat, 26 Dec 2009 11:11:55 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18650#msg-18650 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18650#msg-18650
I also just heard that the new ladder installed at Ringbolt (Arizona ) HS has already been removed by the rangers!]]> Paul P. U.S.A. Hot SpringsTue, 22 Dec 2009 12:56:29 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18649#msg-18649 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18649#msg-18649Thanks for the trip report. Now you feel my pain. I have probably seen these same teenagers there too. Or certainly hauled their trash out too. Thank you very much for your help. What I do is follow them out or get to the parking area and record their license plate #. The problem is they usually have their parents meet them at a predetermined time there. Diplomacy is a vital tool when in this situation. I have threatened these criminals before.
A clean up by a local hiking group is planed by this weekend. I will check on that date and get back @ that.
Did you go to the River ? If so what was it like down there ?
Thanks again Paul.]]> jobe U.S.A. Hot SpringsTue, 22 Dec 2009 09:04:40 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18645#msg-18645 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18645#msg-18645

I visited Gold Strike yesterday and was relativley appalled by the majority of my experience. I arrived at the springs around 8am and found 2 groups of campers. One was a pleasant group of young climbing hippies from Wisconsin, the second a large group of loud obnoxious kids. I could tell immediately that the second group were not your ideal hot spring stewards. A large ammount of trash was spread out below and above the cave pool including numberous crushed beer cans, water bottles, half-eaten apples, squished grapes, a hunk of raw meat, numerous glowsticks, cigarette butts, Etc.

I soaked for a while in the cooler side of the cave pool and then when up to the upper pools for a bit of reprieve from the load scene below. As the kids got out of the springs I took over the hot portion of the cave pool while they "cleaned up" camp. Somebody had recently added a row of sandbags and left a supply of extra bags so I took one and began filling it with the kids trash. I was gathering it up right in front of some of them including the grosser stuff like the food items.

I returned to soaking and soon smelled the unmistakable stench of burning plastic form their second campsite above the pools. The toxic smoke continued for more than an hour and gave me quite a headache. At one point I got out and found huge mounds (up to 2 feet) of suds floating down and in the cooler pool adjacent to the cave pool. They were using a large ammount of soap to wash items directly into the stream flowing through their camp immediately above the pools. I was fuming at this point.

One of the guys picked up, slightly, on my passive agressive tactics and began gathering up a few pieces oc trash I had missed near their lower camp. As another in his party was climbing past the springs between campsites the cleaner called to him, "any trash up there". He answered, "nothing we'd want to take home." The uppper party left and I went up to survey the aftermath. There I found a smoldering fire pit stacked high with additional beer cans, food trash, cigar tins, a sweathshirt and another unidentified article of clothing someone tried to burn, Etc. Cigarette butts were scattered widely. Off to the side, on a rock shelf they had left a couple of sleeping bags, a sleeping pad, a pillow, quite a lot of unopend packaged food, and other items they were too lazy to pack out. I took out my larger trash bag and begas picking the smoldering trash from the fire pit and bagging it. The remainder of the group hiked through from the lower camp without comment.

When I checked out the lower campsite it was only slightly better. Still maybe a dozen beer cans smashed into a fire ring and a large stock of unopened canned food and boxed dry goods. My bag was getting pretty full and weighing about 25 pouds so I left most of this stuff at the lower site for another visit or another good samaritan.

On the plus side, the hike was great, the water felt excellent, and I met a number of additional kind folks on the return hike which helped restore some faith in humankind. Still, this trip stood in sharp contrast to my idyllic last visit 6 weeks ago on Halloween when I saw nobody until late morning and saw very little trash.]]> Paul P. U.S.A. Hot SpringsMon, 21 Dec 2009 16:56:24 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18643#msg-18643 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18643#msg-18643For pictures and a good article about Gold strike. Go to Soakers Forum.com .
Of course being there is always better. Wish I could join you.
Once you get to the forum click on Nevada then click on Gold strike. You will have to go to page 4 as the post is very large.
Glad to help !]]> jobe U.S.A. Hot SpringsSun, 20 Dec 2009 07:32:57 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18641#msg-18641 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18641#msg-18641Is this the Russian Sam D. that all ways is picking up trash at D.C.H.S.?
Sam, the weather is always good enough to go to Gold strike h.s. And no I live in Hesperia now. If this is the Sam I know you will LOVE all the many hot springs in the canyon. I have a group of volunteers who remove the trash there now. Did you read my report on them at this site?
Arizona or ring bolt h.s. is 3 miles further down steam on the Colorado River. Or 4.2 miles past the Hoover dam on the highway.
The ladder above was removed by the rangers because of complaints @ some aggressive lesbians. But was replaced. Please post a trip report here & and let us know how things go for you.
Thanks & enjoy !]]> jobe U.S.A. Hot SpringsFri, 18 Dec 2009 18:55:43 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18638#msg-18638 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18638#msg-18638]]> Rick U.S.A. Hot SpringsFri, 18 Dec 2009 00:11:26 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18637#msg-18637 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18637#msg-18637
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Never heard about it. I am going to do some research. Is it also CO?

It's down the river a bit from Goldstrike. A bit past Boyscout hot spring.]]> Rick U.S.A. Hot SpringsFri, 18 Dec 2009 00:10:14 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18636#msg-18636 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18636#msg-18636 Sam D. U.S.A. Hot SpringsThu, 17 Dec 2009 21:06:03 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18635#msg-18635 Re: Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18635#msg-18635 Rick U.S.A. Hot SpringsThu, 17 Dec 2009 20:58:17 -0800 http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18634#msg-18634 Question to Jobe about Goldstrike (sorry for off topic)http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?3,18634,18634#msg-18634Jobe, do you think, given the weather forecast for Vegas, it's a good time to visit
Gold Strike? I might be in Vegas from Tue to Thur and contemplating the visit to the HS.
Is the water hot enough to be enjoyed? Are you in Vegas now? If yes, when do you think you'll be going?
I might ask you if I can come along.

Many thanks in advance,

-Sam D.]]> Sam D. U.S.A. Hot SpringsThu, 17 Dec 2009 20:56:45 -0800