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<description> I drove to the Bowen ranch just after 9:00 am this morning and thought the ranch was very pretty with the snow every where. So , I got out of my truck and took a couple of pictures of it. Before this , as I drove up Bowen ranch rd. I wondered IF Mike was still angry with me. I wondered if I drove up to the gate if Mike would talk to me .???
Before I got to the ranch I saw a sign where the Bowen ranch property begins that said &amp;quot; AREA CLOSED.&amp;quot;
Looking at the snow you could see that no cars or trucks had been there for a while. As I got out to take my picture of the ranch Mike came out the back door yelling, &amp;quot; Get the F___ out of here!&amp;quot; He continued cussing and yelling like a MAD MAN. I'll spare the expletives.
As I continued on the Bowen ranch by pass route the snow was almost 2 feet deep and only 1 other person had attempted this route. This other person only made it half way to the trail head and then turned around. I made it to @ 1/4 of a mile from the trail head and parked.
When I started this trip I planed on posting my pictures here. However, I lost my camera carrying bag that has my computer cable in it. I took 60-80 pictures of the hot spring area. Some very good and telling. I will go to Radio shack when I finish here and try to get a computer cable. If they have one I will post the pictures here soon.
I expected the creek to be over the big pool. When I got there the creek was as high as the lower pool. Not even over the crab cooker, much to my surprise. The creek had been higher than this earlier because the new mud was @ 10 feet higher above the Arizona pool. I have pictures of this. The Arizona pool was flooded and it was hard to tell by how much, however.
I took my new thermometer out and put it out into the creek as far as I could reach, the temp was 34.1 degrees. The outside air temp on the beach was 46.3 degrees.
I took these temps and pictures from 9:50 - 10:30. Then, fearing an attack from the Growler I headed back up the trail. As I was going up to the trail head I came across GrEg M. who post here some times. We had @ a 40 minuet conversation and he had made it to the trail head in his truck. I also saw 6 cows grazing on the hill just above the Bowen ranch trail. They did not mind me taking their picture.
As I headed back into town at least 25 trucks and cars were heading to the ranch.
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18844#msg-18844</link><description><![CDATA[ Mr. Wayne,<br />Perhaps you should sign up for a flickr account. Just googleflickr.com. Is what I did. For free you can post @ 200 pictures, then post that address here.<br />I saw on face book yesterday this posting : &quot; pardon me I am allergic to B.S. &quot; I did not take your joshing too seriously.<br />By May I plan on being back from Florida so let me know when and we can plan that trip.<br />Have a good trip !]]></description>
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<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 07:37:30 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18842#msg-18842</link><description><![CDATA[ My wife is heading out to Arrowhead in May, to visit her daughter and grandkids, while I get left behind to watch the dogs and the Inn (www.ctrivervalleyinn.com). I have got to get out to visit you guys, so we can make the hike from Hooks Creek. Don't take my joshing seriously, you are one of my favorite people...<br />A question: How do I insert a picture saved on my computer? I want you to see &quot;Widget&quot;, my 5lb. Papillon.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Mr_Wayne</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:10:59 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18841#msg-18841</link><description><![CDATA[ Wow- I think Marna and Rodney are meant for each other8-)]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:58:43 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18840#msg-18840</link><description><![CDATA[ Your caring nature Joe smiles on our planet. Us being part her and her being part us, earth's natural rhythm delights supportively in our holistic, symbiotic being. Environment, energy, economy and living beings eternally linked in life's creation, delicate dependent connections, always we must balance our actions -the tight rope walk of our very foot steps. Travel lighty and leave her in better shape for all to come. New life will respectfully see clearly the blessings to have as pristine as possible, terra firma- under our feet each day. &quot;The glory of the garden lies in more than meets the eye&quot; - Rudyard Kipling. Hope to see you soon here or over yonder. Juxtaposed in this moment of infinite time. Take care,stay warm, positive and well. Your hiking friend Marna]]></description>
<dc:creator>acceles</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:39:41 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18839#msg-18839</link><description><![CDATA[ Mr. Wayne,<br />Marna is a friend of mine who lives in Albuquerque, She drove to Vegas and got a full tour of Gold Strike. She is a environmental scientist with a good soul and that is definitely not a hallucination, thank God.<br />It is people like her that keep me hopeful.<br />Thanks for caring.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:04:01 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18838#msg-18838</link><description><![CDATA[ Jobe? JOBE! Wake up! You're hallucinating, again...!!!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Mr_Wayne</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 05:31:10 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18837#msg-18837</link><description><![CDATA[ Well Marna, why don't you just come over here and see how cold it is. I hope you clicked onto the slide show feature and saw the last photo from warmer days. If you do come over here Marna I will show you how to stay warm, with a full guided tour FREE !<br />We need some more environmental scientist out here and that's for sure. You can test the water and I'll test you ;~)<br />Hope 2 see you soon.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:47:26 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18834#msg-18834</link><description><![CDATA[ ahhh so your the one the left it budlight... Thanks man it was great and much enjoyed. Beer down there is like GOLD! Ya ever time im down there and have some extra brews or food before i go back up i try to pawn em off on somebuddy and if no is there to take it ill leave the canned goods in the open for someones else to find and enjoy. I figure its not trash andsome one will use it.... But hey if u guys dissagre with me doing that id glady hike it back up. I always pickup all my trash and then some before i leave.<br /><br />i know im new to the forum but been down there about 20times now inthe past year or so since ive know about the spot and i love the it!.. Much respect to the local guys that keep it clean and maintance the place. Thank u guys! I try to do my part as well picking up aftert other peoples trash. IM 24 and from long beach and i know alot you u guys blame the trash and trouble from all the young people coming down the hill. Just so ya know im not one of em.]]></description>
<dc:creator>stoney1</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:24:47 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18833#msg-18833</link><description><![CDATA[ visited this site, viewed the photos - wow what beauty. the surrounding looks cold- sure must be nice to touch the hot springs. take care. marna]]></description>
<dc:creator>acceles</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:40:50 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18831#msg-18831</link><description><![CDATA[ Hey stoney1 I am glad you enjoyed the bul light tall can. I ushally dont leave things behind, but i figured a full beer is not trash....lol]]></description>
<dc:creator>Almost-insane</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:53:58 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18830#msg-18830</link><description><![CDATA[ That is cool Celtfire, I need to get back to facebook and soon.<br />Yes Paul, Photo bucket was way too cumbersome, difficult, ssllooww and stupid too. The best thing about photo bucket was getting your boot unstuck and getting outta thar]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:52:46 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18829#msg-18829</link><description><![CDATA[ A really great collection of photos, Joe. Thanks for posting here and I also attached a link to your photos on the Deep Creek Hot Springs site on Facebook.]]></description>
<dc:creator>celtfire</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:48:01 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18828#msg-18828</link><description><![CDATA[ I like the part about the Tall-Can Come up...Hehe]]></description>
<dc:creator>Madrox</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:50:16 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18827#msg-18827</link><description><![CDATA[ Joe, don't you also have a Photo bucket photo site? I seem to recall you put some pics of Goldstrike there!!!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:34:46 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18825#msg-18825</link><description><![CDATA[ It was closed when I got there i know that, and im a lil unsure when i left no cars in his parking lot but i didnt see the closed area sign but wasnt really looking.]]></description>
<dc:creator>stoney1</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:41:03 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18824#msg-18824</link><description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the report stoney1 . That was totally awesome ! It seems to me that only the true hot spring lovers make it under these conditions.<br />Did you notice if the Bowens ranch was open of not?]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:37:13 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18823#msg-18823</link><description><![CDATA[ I drove up to the freedom trail 23rd in my 2wd toyota pickup. Got to the parkinglot just before midnight coming from Long Beach. Of course i was the only one crazy enough to be there at such an hour. Got stuck 2 times on the way up in some ice/snow but would just reverse and gun it up the hill. Made it down to the creek around 1245 or so. Creek looked deep and cold. Tried to cross it felt how freezing the water was and i was a lil unsure of the depth so i said screw it and wait till morning! Set up camp and ate and crashed.. When I woke up around 730 the water in my camelbak was half frozen. On the beach I found a unopend tall can(score and thanks to whoever didnt wanna hike it back up, I enjouyed it!) that was a slushie still when i opend it a few hours later for luch. BUt ya by morning i could see the the water was to deep to cross at the normal spot and glad i didnt just go for it. Looked around found a sandbar and some big underwater rocks about 10ft downstream thats was about waste deep. It gose at a angle towds the crabcooker fyi. Crossed it. Man i never felt water so cold then so hot when i reached the springs. Man my lags were all tingly. Had the springs to my self for a couple of hours till around 10 on of the local guys isee everytime i come down it seems. I didnt catch his name but he dose a lot of the cement work i guess.. He crossed the stream but didnt find the path i took and had to swin part of the way. Around noon a group of 9 dudes came hiking down from the bridge trail. I was hoping for some ladies. SO ya i was starting to get hungry and i made the mistake of notbringing some food and stuff to the other side of the river so i had to cross it. But before i did i sat in the crabcooker as long as i could stand before making the cross. went to the other side ate and enjoyed my brew i found and ate lunch. wanted to go back and soak for a while but i just couldnt convince my self to cross that stream again. so i decided to hike back. What was ice and snow on my drive up was mud on the way back.... All in all it was a great lil solo mission i did.]]></description>
<dc:creator>stoney1</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:24:14 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18822#msg-18822</link><description><![CDATA[ Wizard,<br />Yes, I got the upgrade ;~)<br />And I was at Gold Strike hot springs last week and got a lot of pictures there. I am going back there soon and the pictures now should be much changed because the rocks will fill those pools. I will put some pictures from there for a before and after this flood. I'll let you know when I do that.<br />It seems to me that Deep Creek will get higher than it is when they start releasing water from Lake Airrowhead and a lot of this snow melts.<br />And I remember @ that trash but only concentrated on the big pile.<br />Happy hot pottin !]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:22:06 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18818#msg-18818</link><description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the pics Jobe :-) At the rate your going looks to me like you will be needing that $25 upgrade to the un-limited photos for one year. Thats only a couple of bucks a month and worth it really :-)]]></description>
<dc:creator>Wizard</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:27:37 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18817#msg-18817</link><description><![CDATA[ Great photos Joe! Looks awesome with all the snow! I was also surprised to see the river isn't as high as I had expected.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:23:43 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18813#msg-18813</link><description><![CDATA[ Nice pictures, Jobe!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rivernude</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:45:11 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18811#msg-18811</link><description><![CDATA[ So, I am wondering if Mike took down his &quot;AREA CLOSED &quot; sign by the time you left or was he still in an anti social mood ?<br />If anyone wants to see 9 of my pictures I took yesterday and Mike's &quot; AREA CLOSED &quot; sign you can see them on my new flickr site here:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jobeflickr/" target="_blank" >http://www.flickr.com/photos/jobeflickr/</a><br /><br />That should work, I will be putting more photos there as my batteries get more charged up.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:36:13 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18808#msg-18808</link><description><![CDATA[ Hey what do you know we went today as well. and we parked a little closer than you to the trail head. It was super difficult getting that far in a 2wd truck. any who when we headed down we only saw your foot tracks and cow track. we got a little worried about crossing the creek because no one else was there. so we headed back. on our drive out there was a dodge ram with a camper stuck in the middle of the trail and a ford was stuck off of the trail. The people in the camper truck just set up camp and the ford had a buddy on the way to help him get out.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Almost-insane</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 20:50:51 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18806#msg-18806</link><description><![CDATA[ Well, I tried to get set up in flickr but my battery is almost dead. I got an account and signed in for a year and put bunches of pictures into an account but got tied up by the help feature. I will try again tomorrow.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:40:21 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Muddy Trip reprt 1-23-2010</title><link>http://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,18805,18805#msg-18805</link><description><![CDATA[ I drove to the Bowen ranch just after 9:00 am this morning and thought the ranch was very pretty with the snow every where. So , I got out of my truck and took a couple of pictures of it. Before this , as I drove up Bowen ranch rd. I wondered IF Mike was still angry with me. I wondered if I drove up to the gate if Mike would talk to me .???<br />Before I got to the ranch I saw a sign where the Bowen ranch property begins that said &quot; AREA CLOSED.&quot;<br />Looking at the snow you could see that no cars or trucks had been there for a while. As I got out to take my picture of the ranch Mike came out the back door yelling, &quot; Get the F___ out of here!&quot; He continued cussing and yelling like a MAD MAN. I'll spare the expletives.<br />As I continued on the Bowen ranch by pass route the snow was almost 2 feet deep and only 1 other person had attempted this route. This other person only made it half way to the trail head and then turned around. I made it to @ 1/4 of a mile from the trail head and parked.<br />When I started this trip I planed on posting my pictures here. However, I lost my camera carrying bag that has my computer cable in it. I took 60-80 pictures of the hot spring area. Some very good and telling. I will go to Radio shack when I finish here and try to get a computer cable. If they have one I will post the pictures here soon.<br />I expected the creek to be over the big pool. When I got there the creek was as high as the lower pool. Not even over the crab cooker, much to my surprise. The creek had been higher than this earlier because the new mud was @ 10 feet higher above the Arizona pool. I have pictures of this. The Arizona pool was flooded and it was hard to tell by how much, however.<br />I took my new thermometer out and put it out into the creek as far as I could reach, the temp was 34.1 degrees. The outside air temp on the beach was 46.3 degrees.<br />I took these temps and pictures from 9:50 - 10:30. Then, fearing an attack from the Growler I headed back up the trail. As I was going up to the trail head I came across GrEg M. who post here some times. We had @ a 40 minuet conversation and he had made it to the trail head in his truck. I also saw 6 cows grazing on the hill just above the Bowen ranch trail. They did not mind me taking their picture.<br />As I headed back into town at least 25 trucks and cars were heading to the ranch.<br />GLAD 2 HELP!]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
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